Some valid points smellyfish, the one knock that some people have on Fleming, yourself included, is that he hangs at center ice, and honestly I have heard that, and for all 24 games I cannot speak to, but I made it a point over the last 2 games that I covered to watch that and I had the scorekeeper do the same. And I can tell you that he did not cherry-pick, in either of these last 2 games. That being said, no matter what the opinion, to have the numbers he has there has to be some talent there. But you're right about being a team sport, and I think in the playoffs you will see the best TEAM win, sometimes that's not the most talented.